2 young girls, white truck. I agree that the one set of parents owned money to a drug dealer and they werent paying so maybe they took the one and they couldnt leave a witness so they took her to. Excellent post. Doesnt it seem more likely that these are two separate cases that happen to share some unimportant coincidences than the work of an overly elaborate serial killer? Memorial services for Elizabeth Collins were held December 13. Motives. Join Facebook to connect with Abby Libby and others you may know. Care to mention? Three years already. XXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 These drug cartel enforcer are animals but they are also magnificently smart. Or those girls saw something they shouldnt have. Thats one of the reasons weve involved, to remember these kids.. I think it is easier to blame the families, so we can all feel a bit safer, and better about ourselves when we let our own kids ride bikes or play outside alone. Through the years she has often suggested we take a tour of Evansdale so she could show me Meyers Lake, Angels Park, and where the girls lived and so forth. I would no more attack someone for writing FWIW (instead of For what its worth) than I would someone using the word prolly instead of probably.. I loved her probably as much as her parents did. After their searches turned up empty, the family reported the girls as missing to the Evansdale Police Department approximately two and a half hours after the initial bike ride. And considering your past,maybe you cant pass one. It is uncommon for stranger abductions to happen. Both occurred in tiny rural towns. There is too much here for the FBI to clear him. It is sad that we have turned into a society that tears other people down rather practice, innocent until proven guilty. The houses were next door. Libby EA, Ekici S, Goulian M. Imaging OmpR binding to native chromosomal loci in Escherichia coli. Either way, look deeper into the families connection with the drug world and you WILL find the killer/killers. Some of the most disturbing drug related killings was that of drug dealers luring the children of lower level users and dealers that had stolen product from them or owed money for drugs used. They know exactly where the focus would be and that is excatly what happened, the child molester in a white van theory. Look into James Brian Chadwell the II from Lafayette area. Peter Vronsky, in American Serial Killers: The Epidemic Years, 1950-2000, dedicates a lengthy passage to comparing local participation in submitting to databases that would help identify linkage. He has lots of meth charges too. Investigative Journalist | Criminology, Psychology & Sociology B.A. Is anyone aware of why Michael Klutner has been cleared for these murders? He is considered endangered/physical, for some unknown reason. I remember my relatives spouses n friends on both sides of the family taking advantage of me at a very, very early adge. Thoes girls deserve it. I am sad, so sad for these families. So we take that into consideration as well and we've investigated that, we've been in contact with Iowa and they've been in contact with us and we've discussed that but nothing else seems to be popping up around the nation that is similar to this but doesn't mean he's gonna kill everybody the same way every time. Sign up for The Lineup's newsletter, and get our most terrifying stories delivered straight to your inbox. Atlas. Heartbreaking..i hope they find.out who did this to them . Dates seen March 2005. All three witnesses said theyd seen the SUV sometime between 11:30 a.m. and 12:30 p.m. on July 13, 2012, the same day and approximate time period when the girls went missing, WHOTV Channel 13 reported on June 24, 2012. Curl said the community did everything they could to help raise awareness and bring the girls home. Some do appear more significant than others, but also have reasonable explanations that dont point to them being linked. And for justice. Lyric and Elizabeth went missing on 7/13, not 1/13. The Gazette said other cases against Dan Morrissey charge him with possessing, dealing and making methamphetamine, and a range of other drug charges that could lock him up for decades if convicted. I can read anything in the English Lang but do not ask me to spell or put it in correct grammar! These girls deserve justice!!! Sorry if this has been mentioned before but its my first post after catching up on the Iowa murders but just watching LordanArt's latest Elizabeth and Lyric video and wondered about a possible connection between the Iowa deaths of 13th July and Delphi's 13th February dates? Probably a family friend who grew up in the area and had a hunting or fishing license at one point. Its an area few people would know about. From my understanding, Michael Klunders first crimes did in fact happen in the Waverly area. Abben said there were no other missing persons cases and the remains found were of a smaller stature. but as far as i know.. we dont know if they were kept captives all this time or not. Make sure you have facts to support your suspicions. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Shame on you bitch if I ever see you in public I will punch you in the face like you were a dude . They believe that the offender may be a member of the Evansdale community, and that its not likely they are transient or just an individual that was passing through. There are still no updates or leads that have led to any arrests. Thankfully, we know for every county, every city, what unsolved missing persons cases they have, said Gerard Meyers, assistant director of field operations of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation in a USA Today story published June 10, 2013. Do you have an idea how ignorant you sound. The timing of things couldnt be more suspicious. This happened in Des Moines but just hang in there. Btw, only one set of parents was connected with drugs. Were there two family Press J to jump to the feed. Agree that LE in Iowa were much more effective. But most likely drug money and prison time. Have you told any law enforcement that you know all these details? No one could imagine that these two little girls would never return home, and even though their bicycles and belongings were found within hours of them being reported missing, it would take months to find their bodies and lay them to rest. Your ignorant fir calling someone that. Chad was convicted with: I cant imagine what their families have gone through with thier disappearance and deaths. i think when its too late, we dont want libby and abby to have the same fate. My thoughts are with all of you. Some have speculated if a serial killer is haunting the Midwestern United States. Taking all the points you made, youre talking about a serial killer who targets young girls in pairs, one of which must have a phone and an online presence, one of which must be being raised by their grandparents, and both must have differing body types. If you think someone might be a suspect, contact the authorities rather than putting someones name on public forums. - www.CriminalCoffeeCo.com Believe me, sometimes the general public knows way more than law enforcement agencies will ever know and to me those people are just as guilty as the killers for keeping that information secret. Listen asshole, do you have any idea who you were just a smartass to? What I want to know it the address the grandmother lived at when this occured. The Evansdale victims weren't found for 5 months, with more than a month of hot weather, the decomposition would have been very rapid. Looking on Google Earth it looks like it is the southeastern half of Waterloo. They sent it to the cops: No response. Dont attack somebody for there grammar but its ok to attack the family of the girls. They said the car/truck stunk when they got it. On Monday afternoon, December 10, 2012, the Iowa State Medical Examiners Office confirmed the bodies found on Wednesday were those of Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins. the similarities are super weird but some of them are hard to come up with an explanation for. Everyone thinks all they need is DNA. I was a kid at the time, and I remember going to school the day they found their bodies. Yeahwho, Mr. Robert Lindsay who apparently knows who the killer is. lyric and elizabeth abby and libby The girls set out around noon that day. Lyric was survived by her parents, Dan and Misty Morrissey; her brother, Dillin Morrissey; maternal grandmother, Wylma Cook and paternal grandmother Vicki Weikert; paternal great-grandmother Ilene Weikert; maternal uncles and aunts Russel Bertch, Kathy and Paul Anderson, Tammy (favorite aunt) and Bill Brousseau, Tracy and Denise Bertch, Heather and Drew Collins, and Jeramia Cook. Weve all held out pretty strong that theres going to be a positive outcome.. The Delphi, Indiana murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German are mentioned throughout the. Did the writer clearly convey what he/she meant as it related to this cold case? You mean like a door closer? I think it was somebody that knew the girls. He was just arrested for child sexual abuse and the victims were similar ages. Maybe illustrate. 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Their is possesive, as in it is their turn. But Lyric and Elizabeth were found at Bremer County's Seven Bridges Wildlife Park. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Easy to get VIN, get crushers records, date, etc. I dont know why people think it would be hard to take two little girls. OMG he lived 16 minutes or 6 miles from the Seven Bridges park SIX MINUTES!!! In a press conference held at the Evansdale City Hall on Tuesday, Feb. 3, 2015, Evansdale Chief of Police Kent Smock said authorities were focusing their efforts on anyone who might be familiar with the remote Bremer County woodland where Lyric and Elizabeth were found in December 2012. Hundreds of cyclists rode the nearly 100-mile route in two-by-two formation showing solidarity for those theyve lost, KWWL.com reported on May 16, 2014. You may have interviewed the gentleman I am addressing here. On February 6, 2013, officials announced that the trail and park at Meyers Lake would be renamed to honor the memory of Lyric and Elizabeth. This beautiful girls deserve justice. State investigators conducted a painstaking examination of potential similarities between the kidnapping and murder of Dayton teenager Kathlynn Shepard and missing person cases in Iowa, and in June 2013 a state official announced that potential connections were already being analyzed between Shepards murder and the Cook and Collins slayings. They are two totally different set of circumstances. I think they found that he was innocent on this one. And the pairs of girls resemble each other in appearance. One is on Gilbert in Evansdale and one on a farm or house in Readlyn. So please dont act like you know anything about me . Here's my experience. Its very obvious that this horrible tragic event took place because of the heavy drug use and selling of drugs within the families. these beautiful souls Join this channel to get . I also want to get the Early Bird Books newsletter featuring great deals on ebooks. Dug here (Doug?). He is now deceased, but he had a habit of abducting two girls at a time for his perversions. The girls went missing on July 13. So sad. People saying there can't be a serial killer are getting ahead of themselves just as much as the people who are confident there is a serial killer. Someone wanting money would keep them alive or the perception that they were alive in an effort to collect. I may have missed a lot of the discussions and taken the wrong/right side or neither I dont know what goes on in the mind of others but I do know evil exists. That book was amazing, still have an hour or two left to listen on Audible. Thats your investigation. You sent December 7, 2020 I thought they were looking at that guy from Northwood IA for this. I also wonder, since he had so many meth/drug busts if that is related? What kind of closer? rip little angel my heart aches that the world is so cruel to take you and your cousin. She wants me to stain the steps outside her front door this week. She had a big heart and had a great love for animals. I am sure its not Fitz. Airdate: Feb. 10, 2015, DCI Asst. That was a 15 year old girl Kathlynn Shepard and her 12 year old friend from another small town in Iowa. Here it is, as I see it, and this site PROVES, children get abducted and murdered everywhere. Chief Kent Smock of the Evansdale Police Department received confirmation Monday, according to a Black Hawk County Sheriffs Office press release. That would be unconscionable. (Police Photo) Unfortunately, the horrific murder of Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams has still not been solved. Summary. Did get em. Im a 56 year old woman and have been following this case for some time. Those girls probably saw them in the house and was never told they are bad people. God bless ! I was inside the courtroom on Friday. theres an awful lot of them though. Mystery. XXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 I have a clean record and have never been in trouble with the police since I was a young man Im 45 years old and am not a druggy I own my own business and am home with my childeren every night . Even though it is remote there is a High School less than 2 miles north of the 7 Bridges Wildlife area. At the same time, investigators said Dan and Misty were not considered suspects in the girls disappearance, and were looking into their backgrounds and that of their associates only so as not to discount any possible leads. My father Dennis Ross Harmon was the killer of the Delphi girls give me a call at 502-965-3372 Dennis Ross Harmon was his name and my younger son Dylan. December 5th. LASCIVIOUS ACTS W/CHILD-INFLICT PAIN OR DISCOMFORT (FELD). How do you know he bought it there? Why not see who called in sick the day they disappeared? I have a feeling that these 2 girls knew their murderer. If the lication where the bodies were discovered, couldnt law enforcement pinpoint when the bodies first appeared in that location. They were taken to an area that is very remote. They all remain in the Evansdale/Independence area. I know you have a wealth of information regarding the case, so I will not be redundant. Im often wrong when I do and I find dont know what Im talking about. Jim Newton the Detective working that case then showed me the pictures that could not be used in evidence. Smock made a plea to the public to identify anyone they believe is familiar with the Seven Bridges Wildlife Area. That section of hwy 20 was under construction for months. They always have to be remembered, Trelka said. I can pass your name and info to them so they can contact you, since you know the facts. Both sets in a park but separated from other visitors. Why are you commenting on this year old comment? There are alot of good intended people but none of us really know and God forbid we ever do know what its like to have one of our own children taken in such evil and cruel way. KCCI said court records show Altmayer was working as a traveling automobile damage field inspector. Look at those two charges! Young teens Abby Williams and Liberty German went out to enjoy a walk on a local trail and disappeared. Lyric was a very special young lady. Old people love to talk about other old people. Misty and Dan did,and passed! People will always judge (not all people) but there judgements, views, or comments , are just speculation From what information is available in the media , which isnt the most reliable source as of lately. I also often wonder how they were able to rule him out. Not everyone has a conscience, I see that you have been correcting peoples grammar but dont you mean coma instead of comma? AboutPressCopyrightContact. I dont want to give the exact address, but the grandmas house was on Brovan Blvd Evansdale, Iowa. But we do keep that in mind, we do check with other states to see if they have anything close and obviously the case in Iowa is probably the closest but we don't even know the cause of death in that one they didn't find the victims until later so it's hard to compare but it is similar. I pray for justice, for this little Angel. But hey no one is a criminal until they get caught right. I pray every day for you and Your family and Pray that today you will get Justice for Elizabeth , I share The information every day online in Hopes it may help. December 7, 2020 Please take a look at this Doctoroz.crimeHunters. Which would mean he was somewhat familiar with the area. Scott Medhaug was staying at Debra Kings. In Delphi, it appears that the posed bodies were meant to be discovered, unless, of course, the killer had intended to take them to another location, but was forced to leave/kill them where they were found. Somebody knows something. Her desire to have fun within those loving relationships was seen while going to church, sharing devotions with her parents in the morning and card games with her grandmother in the afternoons. I live in a town of 500. SIX MILES! According to a Cedar Rapids Gazette article published July 25, 2012, Dan Morrissey, 36, was scheduled to appear Friday in Black Hawk County court in Waterloo for a pretrial conference covering four separate cases, including one where he was charged with assaulting his estranged wife, Misty Morrissey, the mother of 10-year-old Lyric Cook. Even in rural Iowa. I truly hope and Pray for Justice for Elizabeth and Lyric. Now, is it clearer that this is realistic ? Both crimes involved the horrific murders of two young girls who were out together alone, and there has been discussion about how the dates of both disappearances are anagrams of each other, with Elizabeth and Lyric vanishing on 7-13-12, and Abby and Libby going missing on 2-13-17. Someone out there knows somethingyou can bet on it. Director Talks About Evansdale Cousins Murder Investigation, by Kelly Maricle, WHOTV.com, Airdate: January 29, 2015, EVANSDALE MURDERS: Police Rule Out Klunder, by Sam Hoyle, WHOTV.com, Airdate May 14, 2014, ONE YEAR: Parents Happy With Investigation, by Staff, WHOTV.com, Airdate July 12, 2013. ?about that time. Even though Dan Morrissey was involved with meth, my guess would be that if the murders were related to drugs, we would absolutely know. Where did it end up where you said it smelled? Later that same day, the girls bikes and Elizabeths purse were found near the corner of Meyers Lake. July 13, 2012 On the morning of Friday July 13th, 2012, cousins Elizabeth Collins (right) and Lyric Cook-Morrissey (left) were dropped off at their grandmother Wylma Cook's house, which sits along Brovan Boulevard in downtown Evansdalea town in Black Hawk County, Iowa with a population of around 5,000. She was eight years old. Soon, the Black Hawk County Sheriffs Department and the local fire department joined in the search for Elizabeth and Lyric. Being there was two girls, one watched the other die first, again, pointing back to the MO. She attended Kingsley Elementary School and was 10 years old. (8) we do not know how either were killed (technically), BUT, we do know neither was shot. DNA could still be obtained from all involved as well as using genetic genealogy DNA. 1 / 7. I love this! I think maybe cops and family are all to blame,this should have been solved right after those girls were found,cops and family must have known right away who did it they just dont want to hurt the parents,they hide behind lack of evidence,in any other state this would have been solved years ago,but not in rural Iowa where hardly any crime ever goes to trial because they plead everything down or if trial its 99% always a guilty verdict,so my opinion is nothing will ever happen,which is sad. All four of the bodies were left on land that is typically frequented by hunters. Many have speculated on the internet that the cousins were kidnapped and murdered because of money Dan owed someone. Which sounds good in theory except for a few missing facts. or that they both lived with their grandparents? That is the only missing link. Most seen was Lyrics unconditional love for her family and her special love for her brother Dillin. Both occurred on the 13th. Delphi may well have been an attempted abduction, a la Evansdale, which went wrong due to the girls being that bit older, stronger and more aware of what was happening. Smock said they want to speak with anyone who is familiar with the wildlife area which was formerly a Bremer County park and a popular gathering place in order to eliminate them as suspects. Five months later on December 5th, 2012, hunters in the Seven Bridges Wildlife Area stumbled across two bodies, smaller in stature and appearing to be female. Im being a broken record here, but for a good reasonLOOK DEEPER INTO THE CONNECTIONS THE >FAMILIES< HAD IN THE DRUG WORLD I remember this :-(, I remember that was all over the local news for a long while. He is also listed as a Missing Person from North Liberty, Iowa, according to the Iowa Dept. Not the kind of place and random trucker would know about or be able to drive their truck easily into. Try our coffee!! Community members held a candlelight vigil Wednesday night at Meyers Lake at the same spot where theyd set up a makeshift memorial after the girls disappeared in July. Thats my theory. I pray there is one some day. I want laws changed I want parents aware and deligent and I want the closed minded masses to think for theirselves to put the children first. Its sad. The woman he lived with was first in Evansdale, the moves out to Readlyn. Lyric R. Cook-Morrisey, 10, and her cousin, Elizabeth Collins, 8, were reported missing to the Evansdale Police Department in Evansdale, Iowa, on Friday, July 13, 2012. When does deer hunting usually start? This actually happens a lot within the world of illegal drug use and dealing of drugs. As of July 2017, two people have confessed to the crime, but KCCI said authorities eliminated them after discovering the individuals had no intimate details about the case. The find didnt turn up anything new, but the video did confirm the official police timeline. Within yards! Then another cop. All fingers point right the immediate family. Someone knew it was Richard in that video 2020. The case remained could until 1977 when he allegedly visited his mother, she claimed her son told her that he had escaped from a child abuse ring by prominent Iowa businessmen and politicians .. Frita, even while criticizing someones use of the word prolly, your own comment contained three grammatical errors. After walking around looking for the girls It was later confirmed by the Delphi Police in a Press Conference that it was indeed the bodies of Abby and Libby that had been found, thus throwing a. A lot of the similarities are more likely the result of circumstance. The offenders vehicle may also have been altered with a new paint job or re-upholstery. Both crimes happened during the day, but then its less likely that two young girls would be wandering around at night, for example. A search began, and local parks, schools, and other areas were looked through. I may just tell her to thank her friend for the docs number, and oh by the way how is she doing. I was just watching Dr.Oz and seen a story about a beautiful young girl in Ohio Siera that was murderd in 2016 they found the serial killer to me he looks as if he could fit the description of the guy on the tracks with these two little girls that one of the girls filmed. Lyric was preceded in death by her paternal great-grandfather, Jim Weikert and maternal grandfather, Ray Cook. I was so upset when they were found. Some think it was a botched kidnapping/ransom scenario that went wrong ? Thats obviously not a significant similarity though. No one in this world is perfect, so before you point out the flaws in these families, make sure you take a look at yourself, your family, and flaws that you have. I know Oelwein is 30+ miles away but you drive near that area when you go towards Oelwein. They disappear and are later found murdered. So, you must know exactly who did it and why. (2) Both double murders happened on the same date read backwards (which I do NOT believe was just a coincidence). Nearly 200 people attended Elizabeths burial. He was reportley being followed by a blue car.. December 5th. RIP angels I hope ur justice is one day found! Two teenagers Abby and Libby, ages 13 and 14 years, respectively, from Delphi, Indiana, died in February 2017. Do you recall where you learned all of this? Libby's dad was into Meth Lyrics dad was into Meth. Not when were discussing the double homicide or two young girls in the same region a few hours apart as rare as this occurrence is. Fourth Memorial Ride & Drive in honor of Lyric and Elizabeth, by Taylor Bailey, KWWL.com reporter, Airdate: July 9, 2016, Volunteers prepare for ride in honor of Lyric and Elizabeth, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, Airdate: July 7, 2016, Vigil Held for 3 Girls, Gone too Soon, by Bevan J. 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